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| Quote gutterfax="gutterfax"Not sure if you were fishing or not, but here you are JB
Exhibit A:
More Kiwi born players in Group A than Irish Born players. A quick glance sees 43 Englishmen, 37 Australians, 12 Fijians and 4 Kiwis in the group. 56/96 playing for their country of Birth (58.6%)
Exhibit B:
8 Samoan born players in Group B, with 21 French, 22 from PNG, 32 Kiwis, a Tongan and 12 Aussies. 67/96 playing for their country of Birth (69.8%)
Exhibit C:
36 Australian born players, 18 English born players, 8 Kiwis, 6 Tongans, 2 Scots and 2 Italians make up the 72 players in Group C. 10/72 playing for their country of birth (13.9%)
Exhibit D:
31 Australian born players grace Group D together with 11 Kiwis, 11 English born players, 9 Welsh, 7 Americans, 2 Cook Islanders and a South African. 18/72 playing for their country of birth (25%)
336 Registered players at RLWC 2013, 151 of which will play for the country of their birth (45%)
Australia 116, followed by England 72 deliver 188 players (56%), then New Zealand 55, PNG 22 and France 21 bring in another 98 (29%) meaning the remaining 9 teams will deliver 15%.
Fiji 12, Wales 9, Samoa 8, Tonga 7, USA 7, Cooks, Italy and Scotland 2 each with a rogue South African thrown in for fun are providing 50 players between them!'"
My children were born in one country but have citizenship in three. How do you know this is not the case here, especially with the South Sea islanders.?
I have live in my present country for 45 of my 67 years and have represented them at RU through residency but I have a Yorkshire accent. I now have citizenship in that country but did not when I played for them. I have every right to have played for that country.
What I am saying is that international qualification criteria are what they are and many many countries take advantage of them in multiple different sports. Why do you find it necessary to single out RL ? | | |
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GF has made some truthful and reasonable statements.
When people don't like what they read, they shoot the messenger.
I have often shot GF in the past, but have no need for ammo now.
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1 (1) Australia 1,225.00
2 (2) New Zealand 825.00
3 (3) England 616.00
4 (4) France 233.00
5 (5) Wales 227.00
6 (4) - PNG 206.00
7 (7) Fiji 96.00
8 (6) - Samoa 77.00
9 (9) Ireland 71.00
10 (9) - Tonga 71.00
11 (10) - Scotland 70.00
12 (10) - USA 64.00
13 (13) Italy 57.00
14 (14) Russia 51.00
15 (14) - Serbia 43.00
16 (18) + Canada 40.00
17 (14) - Lebanon 36.00
18 (12) - Cook Islands 36.00
19 (18) - Norway 33.00
20 (17) - Germany 30.00
21 (22) + Jamaica 19.00
22 (20) - Malta 19.00
23 (23) Ukraine 17.00
24 (22) - South Africa 11.00
25 (29) + Netherlands 10.00
26 (27) + Denmark 6.00
27 (24) - Czech Republic 5.00
28 (new) Belgium 4.00
29 (27) - Sweden 2.00
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| Quote keighley1="keighley1"That's a very good post. I agree with most of it.
Where I disagree is with your dismissal of the expansion of the game as being pointless and without hope.
At our beginning, we were alone in our northern fastness.
One Baskerville later and we have Australia, two states yes, but the two biggest and most populous, and New Zealand.
Along comes jean Gallia and we had France and how. Without WW11 and Vichy, French RL would today be where Australian RL is. No matter, we survived and it is Avignon that is selling out, not Catalan Perpignan.
Now we have all these fledgling league nations around the world, due , in part, probably to the RU not being able to ban us. I saw a video recently showing the amazing progress being made in Fiji with teams and in schools. This is real progress compared to absolutely nothing when I was a boy. RL in Fiji, impossible we thought.
Likewise Serbia, Ukraine, Chek Republic, Poland, Denmark, Norway. All very minor league stuff but seemingly persevering with it year on year. Small acorns etc.
Lebanon, are you kidding me ? They have a domestic league and missed the World Vup on points average.
Italy, two leagues, chaos BUT youth teams and womens teams as well as a number of men's teams.
Likewise the USA, Canada and Jamaica, heritage player and split leagues notwithstanding. Amazing.Small but amazing. 4,000 to see Canada. We had a World Cup final that didn't draw much more than that !!!
Qualifying games for the World Cup covering two continents. who could have guessed it.
Now, I know that all this is minor league stuff but if we get one more country to emerge from that lot with a vibrant league and able to compete with the Frances and Wales of this RL world, that would be progress indeed and, given our past history, who is to say that there might be some genuine international expansion of our game.
There, of course, might be no such thing but the fact that these countries play out game at all, to me, is progress.'"
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