calm down dear.

humour me a minute, but at any point in your life when you were growing up, did your dad/anyone else feed you a 'they're not as good as they used to be' line, to describe anything from food to beer to music to sports players to politicians to cars to films etc etc? this seems to be exactly what you're doing.

There, you humoured me, now I'll humour you. The Wigan team of ten years ago was far from a great team. In fact, the Wigan team of 15 years ago was also far from a great team (yes they won a SL) but I'd be thinking more than twice before naming the likes of florimo, moore, reber, cassidy (as a hooker), goldspink, tony smith, holgate, mark smith, jon clarke ahead of any of our starting team now. we've had great individuals such as faz, rads, connolly, paul, newton, renouf, robinson, dallas etc but as a team I think this one is more rounded. thats just my opinion.

Now if you'd like to go back 20 years (not sure if saints fans go back that far???? ya know, before sl...) then yeah we are entering the territory of that wigan team and that national team (mostly wigans team) were the business. However, the 20 years since (when according to your theory it was never as good) never stopped you lot from crowing about how super the wooper dooper saints team were, and bragging about back to back this that and the other? And when we turned sides out at your place to get a good stuffing we didnt turn round and say, well actually, all of rl is crap...we went home, had a beer, kicked the dog and got on with it.

The problem with your theory is that there's always someone older who will take you even further back to a time when, shock horror, we beat the aussies. They will scoff at names like hanley, edwards, gregory x2 etc and say its a sign of the times when we have to have an organiser (edwards) as a gb half back when we used to have the real deal (murphy) or we are stuck with a quick man who cant tackle on the wing (offiah) when we had the blockbuster himself (boston)

the point is using individual player comparisons to back up your theory doesnt work. matty smith isnt as good as trent barrett (i wish) but this wigan team would stick some serious points on that millward side.


Great post!!!!!

I've already said players are fitter and more professional now you utter, utter tool. Read the posts and respond reasonably to the points actually being made and not ones you invent in your imbecilic tiny little mind in future with your trademark unwarranted partisan abuse added in for extra knuckle-scraping points on the way. Little bit of advice for you there. My posts are both informative and entertaining. Gravy all the way.

"Hur, hur, hurrrrrr... Me fink Saints better than inbred fingies over hill, innit like? Hurrr... hurr... hurrrrr....."

See? I can do you-style posts easily if I want to too... I don't as I have a brain...

I notice you made no comment on my previous post with regard to your arrogant attitude, but we are used to you picking your target, and ignoring all else. Comment if you wish, but you will get no reply from me. Have a nice life, and i'm sure when you figure out how to organise a marriage with yourself, you will be very happy.

In the starting 13, along with Roby, id take TP over Hansen in the second row but that really is it

Or alternatively, do what you do - voice an opinion and assert that it's a fact.

Or should that be 'FACT!' (I'd imagine that shouting from the safety of a keyboard is more your style).

Game over.