Yes the coach is picking the wrong players and then playing them out of position but the players must also take some blame. We know that Lee and Hickey are just not good enough and cannot defend and both need sacking but the rest of them must not be putting the effort in, defence is about technique but mostly it is about desire, effort, fighting for the cause, never giving in, and a willingness to bust a gut to stop the other team, all attributes that our players lack.

Vievers was shocking, always leaving morton to deal with 3/4 leeds players

We have to keep Bradford below 57 to avoid the embarrassment of conceding 1000 points. On current form unlikely.

Bradford won't score that many they're a very poor side.

so are we

Yep, you can have all the technique and skills but if you don't have the desire it does not matter, i would like to think they would give us some of that for the last game. I think we can all see whos done that this season and whos been lacking in that department.

Yet another in a lonnnnngg line of poor decisions by our HC. Vievers is too lightweight, can't tackle and a very average goalkicker. Of course everyone else saw this at the start of the season except the one man that really matters. This just drives another nail into Mr kear's coffin.

Thanks for the couple of decent seasons John but glad to see you go now.

Weak centre-wing partnerships are the worst thing we can have when playing strong teams such as Leeds. We really should be aware of the threats that other teams have and pick our team to counteract these issues.

Kear repeatedly said early in the season we'd be a better side by round 27. Couldn't have been further from the truth. Whilst for the most part the lads put the effort in, in terms of ability and the way they are being prepared for games by the staff then this is probably the worst performing team we've had in the superleague era. 460 points conceded in the last nine games speaks volumes.

We could make them look good

With a coach whose been on garden leave since May ish what do you expect????

I think Lee is trying and in all honesty he has been thrust by the coach into a playmakers role which he is not.

Lee is defending in a different position from where he would at hkr.

He needs to revert back to hooker and drop the playmaker which isn't there. Concentrate on his own game in the off season.

I do feel abit for Lee because I think he cops alot of criticism for not been a playmaker, he never came as a playmaker.