I am often intrigued by the question " What is success?"
I suppose if it were St Helens the answer is winning SuperLeague but does that mean that the other clubs have been unsuccessful. Or perhaps has a team finishing 10th had greater success by competing in a tough league with a small squad and unable to throw cash at a problem.

For me, I would not expect Wakefield to win SL this year (though it will be a wonderful achievement if we do) but success to me is:
Every player in the squad improves their game by 10%.
No player is assured of a first team pick because of the competition for places
A clearly planned route to financial prosperity without selling players
Pressing for Top 6 playoffs with a realistic chance of progression.

Am I asking too much?

For me, it's trophies, without them no club is a true success. Old fashioned attitude I know but that's how I see it,

However, I also accept there are so many factors involved in winning, not least good fortune. Something Trinity has not been able to summon up all that often, with the exception of relegation games. So being a realist and accepting that some things are beyond the club's control, then I will accept playing to our full potential. This sadly is something we have rarely achieved IMHO. Possibly the only times we have done so was in the early SL years when we had to punch well above our weight to survive. Add to that 2004, 2008, 2017,2018, there may be a few more, but it's slim pickings. Ok, 2019 and 2020 were blighted with problems but all the same I and many others believe we could and should have done better.

Still, the past is the past and if we are to believe what we hear then this season we should be back on track, so no excuses in my book. The CCup is always a possibility and considering how crap we have performed in said comp for the past forty years then by the law of averages we must eventually put in a shift and at least make the final. SL is a bigger nut to crack but it's not impossible, even the bookie's odds suggest it's not totally out of the question. But to do so would require a big improvement from 2018 standards let alone those of 2020. Over to CC and his band of men.

Success would be getting back to the levels of 2017/2018.

The club as just drifted in the wilderness for maybe 50 years, to me success is the club showing some ambition and giving the fans hope. Ultimately it’s winning games and trophies and being competitive in every match. I suppose survival in SL depends on ones point of view

I’m afraid it’s winning a trophy for me, league leaders shield would be nice or a grand final but I think realistic for us would be a CC win

In my opinion, we've had this for at least 5 years. Would any form of Wakefield trinity for the past 50 years have survived the global pandemic? doubtful. wonder what the succession planning is once MC and JM clear off into the sunset?

Believe me, Success is standing outside Wakefield or Barnsley town hall along with many thousands of other like minded fans watching your heroes Lifting an item of silverware and being deafened by the noise. Aaaahh! Distant memorieseusa_clap.gif

I agree with you on ambition. However I don't see the incumbents have the financial muscle to do so, therefore you need a sugar daddy or a load more fans

Stadium sorted and steady top 8 is success at the moment build on from there.

Up the Trin

I'd go with that for 2 or 3 years. If we achieve that then we can look to aim higher after that - both on and off the field.

To me it's achieving more than your expectations.
So for me this year, if we got to mid table I'd say we had a relatively successful season.

Survival in super league is success