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I've only been watching Rugby League (and supporting Trinity) for a few years. This has both good and bad points to it. The downside, is that there are still plenty of things I don't understand. Exactly why does the ref award a penalty, or not? Or award "six again", or not? And I don't yet totally understand what constitutes offside. I recognise some of our players, but not yet all of them! And a few other things. The upside of all my ignorance, is that I don't think about anything too deeply or go into the nth level of tactics. I get a feel for if we're playing well, whether we're making lots of mistakes, or if our players just aren't managing to break down the oppo. But unlike football or cricket that I've been watching for a 1000 years, I can't put my finger on exactly what we should be doing differently. (apart from obvious things like not dropping the ball!) Anyway, what am I leading to here? The bottom line, is that I just enjoy the moment and the game. On Thursday night, for nearly 60 minutes I had that horrible sinking feeling. We were going to lose to Cas yet again, our season was in danger of stalling or losing that bubble of optimism, another home defeat, the table was going to soon read played 8 lost 5, It's funny how quickly you get emotionally attached to a club. (oh yeah, and for good measure I was facing a long miserable drive home - and no doubt there would be overnight road closures to send me on some wild goose chase round unknown villages, just like the last night match I came up for). And then it all changed. Suddenly we looked better, attacking the North Terrace, the noise rose. A try and now it's really noisy. Another try, disallowed, sh*t. Then another try, fantastic. Oh sh*t, nerves again, Jowitt's got to get this conversion. He does! Now it's seriously noisy. It's all us. Except they nearly get a dropped goal. Oops, I forgot they could do that. Then we get ours. Absolute bedlam. But still end-to-end. One mistake and we could lose this. Unbelievable noise for the last few minutes, then it's all over. Brilliant, fckin brilliant. This is why I love sport. Sing and shout, I just about lost my voice. What a game, what a night, what a result! (and just for good measure, there weren't any road closures on the way home!)
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| Would you not say Dom Young is in front of him? Tom is certainly in contention.
All I'm saying is at that level there are fine margins that get you the spot and he'll do better if he can turn a break like that into a try. Hoy is a good player but he isn't getting within 50 players of a 1 spot in the team Tom will be playing against
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On another note also, McMeeken needs to tidy his discipline up. He?s currently the most penalised player in SL. I?m not for one doubting his qualities and standards which he has brought to us, but if I?m looking at that thinking ?well that?s giving us a lot of unwanted pressure? I?m pretty sure Wane will too especially against the Aussies.
Yeah, he does a bit. Saying that, I'd love to know the stats of how many minutes he's averaging a game and then comparing it against other middles, because I can't see anyone being close who plays Prop. Obviously, when he's played long minutes, penalties creep in, so it goes hand in hand with playing him all match or most of it. I know he's playing a bit less than he was, but still. It's why we need to give Faatili more game time, he seems to be up to speed now after gradually building up his minutes since he arrived. Otherwise Mike will be shagged half way through the season.
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Would you not say Dom Young is in front of him? Tom is certainly in contention.
All I'm saying is at that level there are fine margins that get you the spot and he'll do better if he can turn a break like that into a try. Hoy is a good player but he isn't getting within 50 players of a 1 spot in the team Tom will be playing against
I have no idea. I don?t watch NRL. But in the games Tom was fit for Tom he has been selected. There are fine margins but you not believe the fine margins such as chasing from opposite wing twice saving 4 points, retaining possession from drop outs are not plays worth of international level? I think they are. Those plays could be the difference to winning vs Australia as much as not passing which i still think watching it I?m not convinced we would have scored if he did. As for break the line or score try?s we saw it only last week vs Saints when he sent Pratt in with a cracking pass that he?s clearly got that in his locker to turn breaks into try?s. In fact it?s a rarity he fails to do so and maybe this was one of those times. In a tight game where Cas were well up for it though I think a few of them chasing back really was a top defensive effort from them. I don?t disagree with fine margins playing a part in being toe to toe with teams like Australia like you say but there were more than a few of those in this weeks game where Tom was involved in that he got right and they ultimately in the end did make the difference. I don?t know if he will get in. I hope he does as I will probably go to Wembley to watch but I won?t go if there?s no Trinity players playing. Pretty sure Mckmeeken will be a shoe in though. I?m not saying your wrong I just think there?s other moments that we are glossing over that mattered even more that are of international standard. Hey, at least we are in a position to talk about of a couple of players are in line for a starting shirt. How times have changed for the better.
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| You are saying the same as me about him, except if others are more consistent it will be noticed.
He is outstanding at recovering the ball at a drop out. Don't know whether Wane will use that tactic of course but it's invaluable to us.
I'm not criticising him as a player. He's one of our best.
But to be an International you need to pick up on those small things.
He's not alone. Ashton looks great but let Welsby out maneuver him to stop a try. They both need to pick up on those little things. It's the kind of thing Hall McGilivray and even Makinson did at their best. He has all the attributes, but needs to consistently do those small things.
Chasing back was one of the things that won us the game. But if Walmsley had been on that wing I'd have expected him to do the same. And I think he would.
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On another note also, McMeeken needs to tidy his discipline up. He?s currently the most penalised player in SL. I?m not for one doubting his qualities and standards which he has brought to us, but if I?m looking at that thinking ?well that?s giving us a lot of unwanted pressure? I?m pretty sure Wane will too especially against the Aussies.
Yeah, he does a bit. Saying that, I'd love to know the stats of how many minutes he's averaging a game and then comparing it against other middles, because I can't see anyone being close who plays Prop. Obviously, when he's played long minutes, penalties creep in, so it goes hand in hand with playing him all match or most of it. I know he's playing a bit less than he was, but still. It's why we need to give Faatili more game time, he seems to be up to speed now after gradually building up his minutes since he arrived. Otherwise Mike will be shagged half way through the season. Think he must be averaging 60/70 minutes a game surely, whilst playing 3/4 full games. As a modern Prop that?s immense. Think I?ve said it before but Faatili needs to be doing 2 20 minute spells to give Mcmeeken a rest, like you say he?ll end up Cooked big time.
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