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| Have you noticed that it always feels a bit chilly at night after a lovely sunny day. Look up into the sky and you will see the moon - because that is the reason it feels cold. I can guarantee that every time you feel it's a bit colder at night than you expected, you will see the moon. Of course the so called experts say that if you have cloud cover it traps the Earths heat and prevents it escaping, and that you can't see the moon when it's cloudy. Tosh ! Just as I know that Agar is the cause of our coaching problems, I also know the moon causes cold nights.
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| Okay
Anymore of those mushrooms?
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| I am saying Ducky, that just because you see the moon every time there is a cold night, doesn't mean the moon is responsible for it. Similarly, just because Agar failed as a head coach and we are having problems, doesn't necessarily mean he is the cause.
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| I like your theory, however the moon is fully involved with every cycle of our weather system, as it's boss, the Sun.
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| Well for those that believe Agar is the problem - he is only here because of Smith so regardless of whatever the reasons are for our woeful form the buck stops with Smith every single time.
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| Quote ratticusfinch="ratticusfinch"Well for those that believe Agar is the problem - he is only here because of Smith so regardless of whatever the reasons are for our woeful form the buck stops with Smith every single time.'"
Can't argue with that.
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| Quote ratticusfinch="ratticusfinch"Well for those that believe Agar is the problem - he is only here because of Smith so regardless of whatever the reasons are for our woeful form the buck stops with Smith every single time.'"
Exactly. When you are Director of Rugby you are responsible for all the players, staff, preparation and performances. When we succeed, 2009/10/12 you take the accolades, when we fail you need to take the criticism.
Our problems are not luck, injuries, weather. The players look like they have not played together.
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| Agar out...
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| Quote Wires71="Wires71"Exactly. When you are Director of Rugby you are responsible for all the players, staff, preparation and performances. When we succeed, 2009/10/12 you take the accolades, when we fail you need to take the criticism.
Our problems are not luck, injuries, weather. The players look like they have not played together.'"
The players look like they couldn't give a , and seem to be playing to get their coach the sack.
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| His record at Hull FC against Leeds/Wigan/Saints/Warrington was something like won 4 drawn 1 lost 30.
His Hull FC sides never beat Leeds in a dozen attempts. We never won a play off game in his three and a half seasons. The only two Challenge Cup games we won in his three full seasons were against Widnes and Oldham neither of whom were in Super League.
In the four seasons before he took over we finished 3rd, 5th, 2nd and 4th. In his four seasons we finished 11th*, 12th, 6th and 8th.
*He took over from the sacked Peter Sharp in May 2008 with us in 11th. At that point we had 9pts from 14 rounds, the rest of the season saw us get 8pts from 13 rounds. Don't expect any improvement should he take over from Smith.
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| Let's put this to bed.
SHOULD Smith get the sack, I'm dawn sure Moran will NOT entrust the rest of season to Agar.
I've more chance of having a pooh in the Queen's handbag in broad daylight, than Agar has getting the top job at a forward looking SL club.
If Smith goes, I he'll still have his squash buddy for company.
A new coach will bring his own backroom staff.
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| Si Moran is also a big Wire first and a director second.
I'll have a bet with anyone...If TS goes, Agar goes.
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