2nd game in and we are relegation foder ,utta garbage

So are Leeds and Huddersfield.

Got to agree, we Deffo going finish bottom but unless MR Carter has the bas to sack smith can't see even getting out jail this time. And only 2 games in....

Wakey were always going to be bottom 4 so what is the big surprise. All Wakey can do is hope Leigh implode and Bradford follow them. Otherwise, it is only a matter of time before one of those two replace Wakey or the RFL get fed up with them offering nothing to SL and re-introduce automatic P&R. This isn't a trolling comment but common sense. They need to improve massively or it will / should be their time to drop down a tier.

The worst thing for me is that our last tackle options are just an absolute joke. Time and time again we end up with a second rower caught in possession on the last tackle and it's just such a basic thing to be getting consistently wrong. If we can't even get the basics right then what chance have we got with anything else?

That's a fair enough and well put comment. I was hoping we would be more competitive this year, but since he pre season win at Headingley our intensity and performance levels have plummeted at an alarming rate (again).

Agree 100%. We are contributing nothing to the league. Anyone could see our back line needed a complete rebuild yet we sign props and back rowers. I now regret buying my membership, was going to give up after last year but thought we'd be better not worse!

Some signings like England appear to have played well and he played big minutes today but some others are not having the impact that when they were signed was expected. Think Trinity also lack a quality half back.

It's telling that 2nd game in and Walton who trialled for a contract a few weeks ago is playing interchange second row ahead of seasoned SL players...

Bit early for relegation talk, although that wasn't good today. England was our best again but the rest were in the main ineffective and our halfbacks woeful. Although FWIW i think we will beat Hull KR next week given all their injuries.

I'm disappointed too and yes changes are needed but we are only 2 games in. Let's see how things play out.

Most disappointing is how the half backs are playing. Need to be better

The first game was always going to be tough and this was always a potential bad one. It's a long season. This time last year we were two for two and flying. Then we went to Widnes and we were rubbish for the rest of the year. Let's see how we are a few more games down the line.

The quality and depth at 6 and 7 was always a concern. Miller is a poor half and Finn is an average Joe who seems to be ineffective in a poor side. Still Cas are a top six club Trinity are a bottom four club so the result was to be expected. Dragons at home is the next key match.