It's a massive ask but potentially we could finish above both Hull teams.

That would be a huge positive.

The only chance we have is if we win both and they lose both, we can't control that last bit but we can go out to win.

We could indeedy, so given the way we have finished the last 2 seasons generally, how do we now progress to say what Salford have done? Apart from the obvious of signing 'better' players, how do we win those extra 5 or 6 games like they have? They have to be the benchmark for us as we are similar clubs in a lot of ways, and they certainly aren't breaking the bank as far as i'm aware. It's also more impressive given they've lost Watson, and virtually the whole team that got to 2 finals just 2 or 3 years ago!!

Hull have Toulouse next, Hull KR have Wigan, but then they play each other last game of the season so one of them is going to win at least one game.
All our points differences are pretty similar though: Wakey -165, Hull -161, Hull KR - 152.

A win and a narrow defeat for us could see us still finish above one of them, if not both.

It’s not all about wall to wall stars for me ( just ask Man Utd ) it’s about cohesion within a team and having the right mix of experience and youthfulness working as a unit pulling together for the common goal .Its certainly not rocket science but it can and does go horrible wrong at times (wires/Hull) spring to mind . Get a good bunch of grafters sprinkled with some serious quality to guide them and cajole them around the field and you won’t go far wrong imo .

Unlikely as it is, they could always draw when they play each other. As it is we've done what we needed to do and I think the players will now switch off.

You forgot the awful Golden Point Klav?

No as they could still draw if they both draw a blank in the extra 10 mins.

Indeed
Leeds & Huddersfield this year
Warrington & Hull last year

They could both lose their next game and then draw with each other but that would still need us to win 2 games to be above both.

If Wigan beat Saints tonight then they mathematically still have a chance of finishing top (although I guess that scenario doesn't bode well for us on Monday). You could see them then going on to put 30 past KR and damage their PD.
Toulouse don't really have anything to play for against Hull other than pride, but we know they can play, and that Hull are pretty dire at present so who knows there.

It's all ifs and buts at the minute. I could see us winning 1 game and finishing above one of them, but I don't see us winning both games.

Saints win tonight and they will get the LLS, so may be tempted to rest a few against us which would put us in with a good shout of a win. Having said that I would prefer to beat a decent Saints side to make up for the Golden Point defeat a few weeks ago.

Jeez I forgot about that, has it ever happened though?

I suppose it wouldn't be bad for a useless, gutless, pathetic, team with no nouse or ability and a coach not up to the job, who certain people wanted sacking and throwing on the scrap heap, resulting in him losing his livelyhood and maybe his career.